What's the counter to hard target + body armor?

[kxizm]

assuming you land the shot

He will, too. Akuzuma is crazy good with that thing..

@Akuzuma: I know its been suggested earlier, but I fell in love with the Hatchet the last week or so. It just feels so good to see a little yellow '330' float above someones head as they faceplant into the ground... ahhhh.. something therapeutic about it too...

[CalDW19940]

I wouldn't rely on freezing since a fully charged shot only gets 100 damage (200 on a mighty) but that won't be enough as it needs to basically damage them to the point they are at 2HP before they freeze.

[kxizm]

I wouldn't rely on freezing since a fully charged shot only gets 100 damage (200 on a mighty) but that won't be enough as it needs to basically damage them to the point they are at 2HP before they freeze.

So... two charged shots? Depending on the player's skill that's not too much of a problem

[Nuwk]

I find the best way to kill body armor players is with persauder penetrator or extended mags, nighthawk get taken down with 3 extended mag persauder shots. And as speedy they cant even touch you while your doing it.

[SwordOfAVirgin]

There isn't a counter to hard target. That's why anyone who is any good never uses anything but hard target for their fun fact #2. Maybe on one odd specialized build you could use something like wooden legs, but seriously, if you're using anything but hard target for #2 you are making an inferior build.

Body armor is countered by penetrator ammo, or headshots. Even with hard target, the body armor at least doesnt protect the head.

[DDE_Max_Sterling]

What's the counter to hard target + body armor?

Experience. Stick to a build that suits your style of play, then make minor tweaks to it. The more you encounter them, the easier they become to deal with. Everyone is always too quick to throw up their hands and cry something is OP without giving themself a chance to figure it out. It's much easier to ask for a nerf than it is to use your brain and find ways to deal with it.

[Asheki]

Shotgun pellets to the groin :3

[kxizm]

There isn't a counter to hard target. That's why anyone who is any good never uses anything but hard target for their fun fact #2. Maybe on one odd specialized build you could use something like wooden legs, but seriously, if you're using anything but hard target for #2 you are making an inferior build.

As a Nimble and Speedy player, Wooden Legs saves my life far more often than Hard Target.
But those two are the only really good ones in general for FF2

[Akuzuma]

My counter to Hard Target and Body Armor is using the DF or using Hard Target myself. Which I rather not use but have to against the players that can actually aim and use Hard Target also.

[Akuzuma]

Also to be honest. I am only having a issue with Hard Target due to the fact I mainly use ARs. I always aim for the head unless I am taking by surprise or the target is a strafing Gatekeeper/shotgun nimble/speedy lol